I mean, besides replacing the whole thing with “America: **** yeah!”If this has been covered here before, my apologies, and a link to the relevant conversation would be appreciated. White, supra note 30, … So Help Me God is the name of the upcoming album from 2 Chainz, who has started to tease the project on social media. He said it was fine by him but was unsure if it was all right for us to make the changes on a legal document. Regarding the pledge: “one nation indivisible” was my preference until I saw the video linked above.
I did not want to swear by a god that I don’t believe in. This has nothing to do with the prevailing cultural zeitgeist, it’s about integrity.To the Original Poster; What County or Jurisdiction was this in. It has simplicity and class, and it speaks of personal responsibility.Also, Christians should not want to invoke God in their oaths anyway; if I’m not mistaken, the Bible itself contains a verse saying not to invoke God in your oaths, but “let your yes be yes and your no be no” — something like that.The military enlistment oath has the optional “on my honor” substitution in parenthesis.I think I’d be happy to say “So help me god,” since I don’t believe in god. . Last month, I posted about a newly-minted lawyer named Jen who said an alternative oath during her initiation ceremony. @Christophe Till: I may have been wrong about it being wholly private. so help me God. But you are also astute to recognize that opting for an alternative might make you and the reliability of your testimony seem suspect in the eyes of the people hearing the case.
But by imposing an oath, this organisation is usurpating a privilege of public services.I wonder what training is involved in becoming the “Commissioner of Oaths”.When a group is together, in a situation where they are directed to all say “So help me God”…its very easy to just move your lips and mumble something other than “So help me God” because chances are no one is watching that closely….I’ve done it a few times….felt “evil” in a good way. “Reciting ‘So help me God’ in the reenlistment and commissioning oaths is a statutory requirement under Title 10 USC 502,” Air Force spokeswoman Rose Richeson said Thursday. Waiver of the Oath. So I actually said “I do” and ended up lying due to the oath itself.What is the alternative?
It bothers you that much? I think I got the wrong end of the stick during my orientation. It is also used in some jurisdictions as a form of oath for other forms of public duty, such as an appearance in court, service as a juror, etc. At the end of the oath, above the line for my signature, I was perturbed to see the phrase “SO HELP ME GOD.”I don’t believe I require a non-existent being to help me behave properly, and I would have felt like a hypocrite if I had signed it with the (irrelevant) phrase intact.I remembered reading about a lawyer in the states (on Friendly Atheist) who substituted “On my honour” for “so help me God” when giving an oath.I asked my new boss if it would be acceptable to make the substitution. Substitution of the words “solemnly affirm” for the words “on oath” and no recitation of the words “so help me God” [ 8 CFR 337.1 (b) ] Not Required. Quakers in early America did not have to say the words "So help me God", they simply affirmed the ideal that if they lied, they would do so knowing of God's judgement. Get our FREE Newsletters and special offers!"Interesting. See the discussion on The phrase "So help me God" is prescribed in oaths as early as the There is no law that requires Presidents to add the words "So help me God" at the end of the oath (or to use a Bible). The phrase implies that the speaker is willing to risk their chance of salvation upon their truthfulness. In many cases, not even the presiding officials know there’s an affirmation available, despite it being right there in their regulations.I say that we push for wide access to the existing accommodation — that officials be made aware of the religious accommodations that already exist within their procedures, and that these accommodations be offered I think it’s awesome that there’s a “commissioner of oaths.” How 16th century!While I briefly considered joining the military, I noticed that the swearing-in oath included God, and I’d like to hope that I would have had the courage/integrity to ask for an alternative.i feel that any oath-swapping makes me sound more like ned flanders than an atheist. — but I usually go ahead and say it anyway, sans “under god.”The resulting gap totally ruins the rhythmic flow for me, though, and it would be fun to throw in something snarky instead. Thanks!The last time I had to pledge, the Court instructed me that it was acceptable to end in ” . Maybe I’ll start anyways though.I like that. This site has really opened my eyes.I really like “On my honor”. ""Yet kkkrister conmen/preachers call for the death of Gays from their pulpits""I don't even think we have dropboxes. There is private funding and donations but I think the government has a hand in it too.In any case I’ve had to sign oaths at other private institutions when I was working as a nurse (this was before the “so help me god” would have bothered me). Or, you can just hand them a tissue.If someone swears an oath on something they do not believe nor hold sacred, is that oath worth a damn? “Under democracy” doesn’t have the same ring, but it was a bit more pointed.I dunno. A few days ago, I was hired by a privately-funded homeless shelter.
Would you respect someone who had sworn an oath to the Tooth Fairy? ""Yet another idea I am tired of having to argue against. Any ideas? so help me,” then just stop early and leave the God off. I wonder if Pope Joan would have approved. =)Hopefully not too OT: Does anybody know of a clever phrase to replace the “under god” bit in the U.S. pledge of allegiance? This process is automatic. Need advice from a humanist perspective?I had to be sworn in. Can an atheist legally ask for a non-religious oath of some sort?You are right that you probably are not required by law to swear, “So help me God,” nor would you be compelled to take an oath on the Bible. This secular option applies equally to all government oaths, including the oath of office for military officers and ROTC/Academy cadets and even the oath for jury duty. In Wikisource, The Free Library.